How many shooters? 3,4,5....
How many shooters? 3,4,5....
"We can't be that stupid to think it was just these two kids....two adults couldn't have done this."
-Christian LaPlante(CHS student Jennifer's dad), quoted in Extra Daily News.com 4-23-99
Chris Wisher, sophomore (1261)
He turned and saw two guys carrying shotguns, and wearing black trench coats. A 3rd guy wearing a white T-shirt and jeans was seen throwing bombs onto the roof.
Jake Apodaca, sophomore (653)
He was at the soccer field, heard firecrackers. He turned and saw two guys carrying shotguns, wearing black trench coats and black T-shirts. He sees a 3rd guy wearing a white T-shirt and jeans, throwing a bomb onto the roof.
Jonathan Cole, freshman (749)
He noticed two tall guys in black trench coats. He then saw a third male, wearing a white T-shirt and blue jeans. This person looked over to the other two suspects, and yelled "GO!! GO!!"
William Arapkiles, freshman (660)
He states that he was at the soccer field, and heard firecrackers. He turned and saw 3 people near the West entrance. Two were wearing black trench coats, and carrying guns. The third was wearing a white T-shirt, and no visible gun. The person in the white T-shirt was pacing back and forth about five feet away from the two gunmen.
Channel 7 News at 12pm(noon) on 4-20, EP 21-244
"Reporter said that numerous witnesses he spoke to who were not named said they saw 3 gunmen."
Joe Marshall(5735)
Ramona Lee Madden says he observed 3 kids with guns.
ACSO Nelson(8810)
"... a list of 3 names that the 12 witnesses ID'd from a yearbook were turned over to ACSO investigators to foreward."
Melynda Bae Gattoni(3106)
Q: Who shot the windows?
A: I think there were three men
Jon Curtis, janitor(2286)
Saw 2 to 4 attackers, describes 3 of them.
Eric Campbell(732)
Walked out of school at 11:20am on 4-20 and saw Harris in the parking lot with 2 or 3 other guys, wearing a white T-shirt and a backward baseball cap.
Matt Katzenmeier(5745)
Saw 4 subjects carrying bags in, according to Darlene Mesch.
Alicia Maes(22755)
Saw 4 people with trenchcoats and guns, according to Rachel Nelson. Not mentioned in Maes' 11k interview.
Transcript of ASCO dispatch tapes (ACSO docs)
"Adam21: OK I had a witness posssible witness(sic) down here advise that he saw 4 suspects with long trench coats get out of a maroon vehicle on the back side of the school earlier.
"Car 3: OK do you still have him down there?
"Adam21: He was a minister. I got his name and he went to Leawood Elementary school to see if he could be of some assistance with the parents."
Trista Fogerty(23144)
"Trista said she believes, as do most other students, that there were more than 4 people involved in shooting."
Natalie Baker(2583)
Told her mother there were 2 other shooters besides H&K. (2+2=4)
Jennifer Tyndall(1226)
Sees 2 suspects, neither of which is H&K. (2+2=4)
Ryan Ezzie(2967)
Saw 4 people outside with hats on backwards. On 20612, he says he "...saw at least 4 parties dressed in black standing calmly when others were running."(by the school library)
Jordan Grimm(22432)
According to Jordan's aunt, he saw H&K and 2 others together ouside school just before the incident began. Not mentioned in Grimm's own 11k interview(5760).
DPD dispatch log(9219)
"Male called from Canada and was talking with female student at Columbine and she told him there are 4 suspects not 2 but no further information."
John Spahlinger(1176)
Clement Park maintenance worker, "a majority of the students Spahlinger helped informed him there had been a trench coat mafia gang shooting over at the high school and that there were 4 shooters involved." Follow-up interview says "Spahlinger stated he had no further info to report and that he did not know where someone got that he had(sic) witnessed 5 individuals exit a black vehicle while working in the park."
Camille Campbell(7446)
Denies having CHS friends who told her about 4 shooters, 2 of whom discarded their trenchcoats and fled into the crowd.
Thornton/NorthglennPD SWAT Team, EP 9-34
At 11:35pm on 4-20 the team enters CHS for another search. "We were advised that 2 suspects(shooters) might still be in the school." (2+2=4)
Littleton PO Mike Eyman(8670)
Advised that "there were possibly 4 suspects in the school."
Dustin Gorton(10743)
"He named 2 other individuals he believed to be involved as Nathan Dykeman, Chris Morris." (2+2=4)
(8894)
"Daphne Baca had listed 4 names of possible suspects. Those names included Eric Harris, Dylan Klebold, Chris Morris, and Robert Perry."
Kristen Schoenhoff(4321)
While being driven out of the senior lot, she hears fireworks outside. She turns around and sees 3 males at the top of the stairs. None of them are H&K. (3+2=5)
J. Adams(7422)
Construction worker near CHS; he refers to a black BMW and a small tan car drive down his cul-de-sac, followed five minutes later by the sound of bombs. A co-worker says the BMW was filled with 4 teenagers, the tan car which followed it had 2 people in it(7430).
Mr. Talocco(8876)
He says that the school roof repairman saw 3 people exit vehicle with H&K. Tan vehicle followed them into the lot. The repaiman(Clarke) denies it.
Dick Strange(1194)
"It was at approximately 11:45am(??) that Strange first observed 4 to 5 individuals, all dressed in black trench coats, standing alongside CHS in the vicinity of the gymnasium."
(UFN) Vassar(4691)
Sees 4-5 individuals at 11:15am dressed in black walk away from the school, all wearing trench coats, except one, who was wearing cami pants.
Seth Biggi(2475)
Was told by Courtney Shakowski she saw 4 to 5 TCMers enter cafeteria with a big, black duffel bag. Shakowski's interview itself(1157) only refers to 5 possible suspects in the parking lot.
Devon Adams(10614)
Names 3 (Redacted) names as being directly involved in the Columbine shooting--they are not H&K. (3+2=5)
Boulder PD SWAT Timeline(8245)
2130 hours: "2 suspects believed dead inside, 1 arrest, 1-2 other supects/associates."
Pat McDuffy(10786)
A member of the TCM names 5 people in the attack group. Says another 5 helped plan the attack and helped provide guns and bombs.
Barbara Karnkusis(7523)
At about 7:30am on 4-20 she saw a group of 5 to 6 people, dressed in black, standing at the corner of Pierce and the first street south of the school. One of them looked older, in his mid 20s with short blond hair. Two of them sitting on a large black backpack.
Nick Buhrer(2583)
Was told by Sean Graves in a hospital visit that he saw 5 or 6 people throwing 'devices' in the cafeteria.
Melissa Chavez(9023)
Met H&K and 4 other boys at the mall. They showed her a map of where they would bomb the school. (2+4=6)
Tim Kastle(3416)
Tells IOs of 5 suspects.
Rusty Schyler(4463)
According to Lacey Smith, he told her that he had seen 6 shooters.
Pam Wood(8902)
Got call at work in Pennys at South West Plaza from students trapped in school. One saw 6 trenchcoats and that all were shooting handguns.
Amy Terry(2207)
Was told by friend Elisha Encinias that she was in the commons when trench coaters(2 or more presumably) with masks on came in shooting. Running upstairs, she sees 4 people in trenchcoats coming in through the glass doors at the west end of the main hallway.(2+4=6)
Bryan Frye(806)
Told the IOs that while crawling past the admin office(where he had just heard gunshots), he saw 5 or 6 persons all dressed in black.
LFD Capt. Mike Gorman,. EP 1-335
"Capt. Gorman told me the only information was that there were 5 to 6 shooters from the Trench Coat Mafia."
JCSO Kevin Walker, EP 1-223
"Dep. Walker related the communications center advised there were approximately 6 gunmen, dressed in black."
JCSO Vincent DiManna, EP 1-363
At 11:35, JeffCo. Lt. Manwaring "advised him there were as many as 7 gunmen inside the cafeteria and commons area."
CBSNews.com, 4-19-2001
"They(the cops) believed that they really had 6 to 8 armed individuals inside there."
Joe Schallmoser, R-1 Security(17421)
Dakota Ridge High students Jordana Spaven and Val Halle "are friends of Eric Harris. They know that eight(8 ) individuals were involved and that there will be another incident."
Eric Campbell(732)
Says fellow student Jessica Cave(1820) says she saw 10 shooters at the school(Jessica herself was not interviewed).
Andrew Lowry(5246)
Said that "due to the volume of shots and explosions(in the first 20 minutes) he felt nobody would be left alive in the school."
John Cook(755) and Lisa Forgen(3005)
They see 2 shooters, and tell IOs that they could identify them if they had photos. Interview given days after 4-20; the implication is that they were not H&K. (2+2=4)
DPO Depew(7999)
"Depew stated he felt there were additional suspects hiding out in the outer perimeter communicating with the shooters on the hand-held radios."
Betty Shoels(DP 6-24-00)
"...Duran was involved in a conspiracy.... Everyone in the world knows that conspirators were involved in the case. .... She claimed that law enforcement had not fully investigated the massacre....."
Richard Olejniczak, father of students Alicia and Sarah(5070)
"Richard then asked this Investigator what information had been obtained reference any other participants. Richard stated that while he was at Lea Wood Elementary School, waiting for information about his two daughters, he talked with two girls who came from the school.
The girls said they had seen two guys in the cafeteria, wearing all black. There were also two guys who entered the main door from the parking lot. One was in black, the other in white. The girls said they all had guns.
Anthony Sammauro, via Cindy Sammauro and Janice Olejniczak(5071)
"Tony stated that two suspects came in the front door and one came in the side door."
Natalie Graves (672 of ACSO notes)
"Natalie also related she spoke with a a student named (Redacted). (Redacted) looked out the windows to the grassy hill and saw a person in a dark coat with a machine gun. This person was not one of the two doing the shooting."
Sean Graves
"...saw guy with coat and gun standing by (Redacted)--saw his face and he wasn't one of the suspects." (ACSO 633)
Julie Thomas, passerby eyewitness
That on 042099 at about 0755 hours, Julie turned onto Polk St. from Pierce St. and saw a small brownish/golden truck parked on the south side of Polk St. five male teens around it. At least three of them are wearing black trench coats. (ACSO 808 )
Lindsay Elmore
(332)"I believe there were 3 gunmen."
(334) "Lindsay stated because of the amount of shots fired 'I thought there had to be more than 2 shooters.' "
(340) ...there was so much movement that Elmore thought there was more than two people.
Jason Baer
(1759) Hid in greenroom off science hall "I heard more than two people yelling to each other saying "over here" and stuff."
Map on page 924 reads "Explosive devices found in three cars."
Erik Sunde (4576,16309, 22972) saw two gunmen downstairs near cafeteria, runs upstairs and sees another person in trenchcoat in front of library doors.
TV interview of student David Smith, sophomore, led out of the science rooms by SWAT, says four gunmen roaming the halls(from Zabel's videos)"there was four of them just roaming around the school" No word of this is in his 11k interview(2180)
Adam Foss, in a CNN interview(from Zabel's videos) says there were three guys shooting("I think three guys and a bunch of 12 guages") in the library/choir hallway. No word of this is in his 11k interview(4927)(also says he saw a couple of teachers laying in pools of blood(if Sanders was one, who was the other?)
file:///Volumes/Columbine/Columbine%20Docs2/National%20Lawenforcement%20News/col-shot.htmEmergencyNet News *FLASH* Report 04/20/99Littleton, Colorado (EmergencyNet News) 13:20pm
-- Preliminary and so far officially unconfirmed reports are coming in of a shooting involving at least eight students at the Columbine High School in Littleton.
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SIMALTANEOUS
What did the ear witnesses hear? Numerous students heard gunshots/explosions in different parts of the school simaltaneously. IOs generally ignored the implications of this: that two or more parties were attacking the school. Which of course probably meant more than two shooters, as H&K were officially together almost the entire time.
To wit
Sara Houy(380)
Heard bombs in cafeteria below, while shooters were inside library, exploding bombs.
Josh Lapp(480)
Heard gunfire in other parts of the school while attack on library is going on.
Holly Pinkham(1620)
Says friend Don Goin had his shoe shot off while in middle hall, while gunshots were going off in cafeteria.
Alex Babiner(1954)
"He thought the explosions were coming from the level he was on and from downstairs at the same time."
Doug Johnson(1947)
Heard gunfire and explosions coming from library and commons areas.
Drew Lagerborg(1999)
Ran west down south hallway, there was a gunman at end of that hallway. Ran to north hallway, he heard a shooter down that hallway as well.
Josh Brinkley(2528 )
Heard shots downstairs, then different shots upstairs(from two guns).
Jay Gallantine(3086)
Sees gunman by library then runs downstairs where he hears more gunshots "all this time hearing shots all around me and above me."
Matt Katzenmeier(3424)
Heard shots and explosions inside the school at the same time there are 2 suspects outside.
Dan Lab(3495)
Hears shots and explosions from library and cafeteria.
Jesse Maddox(3610)
Upon the entry of a gunman into the northwest entrance, he runs upstairs to the first landing, hears gunshots upstairs, then ran back down.
Danae Pederson(4043)
Hears simaltaneous shots in north and south hallways.
Brandi Wiseman(4751)
Caught in one of the rooms off the kitchen, hears gunshots, bombs and screaming coming from cafeteria and library.
Lindsay Wyant(4799)
Heard shots in cafeteria and library at same time.
Ashley Egeland(5255)
Fleeing from 2 gunmen in the upper main hallway, she hears shots coming from the commons.
Ashley Burner(6022)
Someone told her they were watching 2 dead suspects and could hear gunfire upstairs at the same time.
Evan Todd(8826)
Heard bombs in other parts of the building while H&K were in library.
Diwata Perez and Jessica Holliday(9923)
Heard gunshots elsewhere while shooters were in library.
Time(12-20-99)
"Students and teachers trapped in various parts of the school were flooding 911 dispatchers with calls reporting the shooters were, simaltaneously, inside the cafeteria, the library, and the front office."
Lindsay Elmore(337)
Library witness "You could not only hear the disaster below(in the cafeteria), but feel it too. There were multiple explosions and gunfire and people screaming. ...then the gunmen were in the library."
[Comment: the official versions says H&K shot up the library BEFORE shooting up the cafeteria.]
Jessica Holiday(367)
"Holliday said that while of this was going on, she could hear bombs going off somewhere else in the building. I questioned her again on this point and she was adamant that she could ear explosions going off while the two men were in the library."
Stephen Salmon (546)
"Stephanie Salmon went on to state after taking up a position under table #20, she remembered hearing 'gunfire from below us.' Stephanie Salmon state she believed the 'gunfire' she was hearing was coming from the 'commons' area.
"We can't be that stupid to think it was just these two kids....two adults couldn't have done this."
-Christian LaPlante(CHS student Jennifer's dad), quoted in Extra Daily News.com 4-23-99
Chris Wisher, sophomore (1261)
He turned and saw two guys carrying shotguns, and wearing black trench coats. A 3rd guy wearing a white T-shirt and jeans was seen throwing bombs onto the roof.
Jake Apodaca, sophomore (653)
He was at the soccer field, heard firecrackers. He turned and saw two guys carrying shotguns, wearing black trench coats and black T-shirts. He sees a 3rd guy wearing a white T-shirt and jeans, throwing a bomb onto the roof.
Jonathan Cole, freshman (749)
He noticed two tall guys in black trench coats. He then saw a third male, wearing a white T-shirt and blue jeans. This person looked over to the other two suspects, and yelled "GO!! GO!!"
William Arapkiles, freshman (660)
He states that he was at the soccer field, and heard firecrackers. He turned and saw 3 people near the West entrance. Two were wearing black trench coats, and carrying guns. The third was wearing a white T-shirt, and no visible gun. The person in the white T-shirt was pacing back and forth about five feet away from the two gunmen.
Channel 7 News at 12pm(noon) on 4-20, EP 21-244
"Reporter said that numerous witnesses he spoke to who were not named said they saw 3 gunmen."
Joe Marshall(5735)
Ramona Lee Madden says he observed 3 kids with guns.
ACSO Nelson(8810)
"... a list of 3 names that the 12 witnesses ID'd from a yearbook were turned over to ACSO investigators to foreward."
Melynda Bae Gattoni(3106)
Q: Who shot the windows?
A: I think there were three men
Jon Curtis, janitor(2286)
Saw 2 to 4 attackers, describes 3 of them.
Eric Campbell(732)
Walked out of school at 11:20am on 4-20 and saw Harris in the parking lot with 2 or 3 other guys, wearing a white T-shirt and a backward baseball cap.
Matt Katzenmeier(5745)
Saw 4 subjects carrying bags in, according to Darlene Mesch.
Alicia Maes(22755)
Saw 4 people with trenchcoats and guns, according to Rachel Nelson. Not mentioned in Maes' 11k interview.
Transcript of ASCO dispatch tapes (ACSO docs)
"Adam21: OK I had a witness posssible witness(sic) down here advise that he saw 4 suspects with long trench coats get out of a maroon vehicle on the back side of the school earlier.
"Car 3: OK do you still have him down there?
"Adam21: He was a minister. I got his name and he went to Leawood Elementary school to see if he could be of some assistance with the parents."
Trista Fogerty(23144)
"Trista said she believes, as do most other students, that there were more than 4 people involved in shooting."
Natalie Baker(2583)
Told her mother there were 2 other shooters besides H&K. (2+2=4)
Jennifer Tyndall(1226)
Sees 2 suspects, neither of which is H&K. (2+2=4)
Ryan Ezzie(2967)
Saw 4 people outside with hats on backwards. On 20612, he says he "...saw at least 4 parties dressed in black standing calmly when others were running."(by the school library)
Jordan Grimm(22432)
According to Jordan's aunt, he saw H&K and 2 others together ouside school just before the incident began. Not mentioned in Grimm's own 11k interview(5760).
DPD dispatch log(9219)
"Male called from Canada and was talking with female student at Columbine and she told him there are 4 suspects not 2 but no further information."
John Spahlinger(1176)
Clement Park maintenance worker, "a majority of the students Spahlinger helped informed him there had been a trench coat mafia gang shooting over at the high school and that there were 4 shooters involved." Follow-up interview says "Spahlinger stated he had no further info to report and that he did not know where someone got that he had(sic) witnessed 5 individuals exit a black vehicle while working in the park."
Camille Campbell(7446)
Denies having CHS friends who told her about 4 shooters, 2 of whom discarded their trenchcoats and fled into the crowd.
Thornton/NorthglennPD SWAT Team, EP 9-34
At 11:35pm on 4-20 the team enters CHS for another search. "We were advised that 2 suspects(shooters) might still be in the school." (2+2=4)
Littleton PO Mike Eyman(8670)
Advised that "there were possibly 4 suspects in the school."
Dustin Gorton(10743)
"He named 2 other individuals he believed to be involved as Nathan Dykeman, Chris Morris." (2+2=4)
(8894)
"Daphne Baca had listed 4 names of possible suspects. Those names included Eric Harris, Dylan Klebold, Chris Morris, and Robert Perry."
Kristen Schoenhoff(4321)
While being driven out of the senior lot, she hears fireworks outside. She turns around and sees 3 males at the top of the stairs. None of them are H&K. (3+2=5)
J. Adams(7422)
Construction worker near CHS; he refers to a black BMW and a small tan car drive down his cul-de-sac, followed five minutes later by the sound of bombs. A co-worker says the BMW was filled with 4 teenagers, the tan car which followed it had 2 people in it(7430).
Mr. Talocco(8876)
He says that the school roof repairman saw 3 people exit vehicle with H&K. Tan vehicle followed them into the lot. The repaiman(Clarke) denies it.
Dick Strange(1194)
"It was at approximately 11:45am(??) that Strange first observed 4 to 5 individuals, all dressed in black trench coats, standing alongside CHS in the vicinity of the gymnasium."
(UFN) Vassar(4691)
Sees 4-5 individuals at 11:15am dressed in black walk away from the school, all wearing trench coats, except one, who was wearing cami pants.
Seth Biggi(2475)
Was told by Courtney Shakowski she saw 4 to 5 TCMers enter cafeteria with a big, black duffel bag. Shakowski's interview itself(1157) only refers to 5 possible suspects in the parking lot.
Devon Adams(10614)
Names 3 (Redacted) names as being directly involved in the Columbine shooting--they are not H&K. (3+2=5)
Boulder PD SWAT Timeline(8245)
2130 hours: "2 suspects believed dead inside, 1 arrest, 1-2 other supects/associates."
Pat McDuffy(10786)
A member of the TCM names 5 people in the attack group. Says another 5 helped plan the attack and helped provide guns and bombs.
Barbara Karnkusis(7523)
At about 7:30am on 4-20 she saw a group of 5 to 6 people, dressed in black, standing at the corner of Pierce and the first street south of the school. One of them looked older, in his mid 20s with short blond hair. Two of them sitting on a large black backpack.
Nick Buhrer(2583)
Was told by Sean Graves in a hospital visit that he saw 5 or 6 people throwing 'devices' in the cafeteria.
Melissa Chavez(9023)
Met H&K and 4 other boys at the mall. They showed her a map of where they would bomb the school. (2+4=6)
Tim Kastle(3416)
Tells IOs of 5 suspects.
Rusty Schyler(4463)
According to Lacey Smith, he told her that he had seen 6 shooters.
Pam Wood(8902)
Got call at work in Pennys at South West Plaza from students trapped in school. One saw 6 trenchcoats and that all were shooting handguns.
Amy Terry(2207)
Was told by friend Elisha Encinias that she was in the commons when trench coaters(2 or more presumably) with masks on came in shooting. Running upstairs, she sees 4 people in trenchcoats coming in through the glass doors at the west end of the main hallway.(2+4=6)
Bryan Frye(806)
Told the IOs that while crawling past the admin office(where he had just heard gunshots), he saw 5 or 6 persons all dressed in black.
LFD Capt. Mike Gorman,. EP 1-335
"Capt. Gorman told me the only information was that there were 5 to 6 shooters from the Trench Coat Mafia."
JCSO Kevin Walker, EP 1-223
"Dep. Walker related the communications center advised there were approximately 6 gunmen, dressed in black."
JCSO Vincent DiManna, EP 1-363
At 11:35, JeffCo. Lt. Manwaring "advised him there were as many as 7 gunmen inside the cafeteria and commons area."
CBSNews.com, 4-19-2001
"They(the cops) believed that they really had 6 to 8 armed individuals inside there."
Joe Schallmoser, R-1 Security(17421)
Dakota Ridge High students Jordana Spaven and Val Halle "are friends of Eric Harris. They know that eight(8 ) individuals were involved and that there will be another incident."
Eric Campbell(732)
Says fellow student Jessica Cave(1820) says she saw 10 shooters at the school(Jessica herself was not interviewed).
Andrew Lowry(5246)
Said that "due to the volume of shots and explosions(in the first 20 minutes) he felt nobody would be left alive in the school."
John Cook(755) and Lisa Forgen(3005)
They see 2 shooters, and tell IOs that they could identify them if they had photos. Interview given days after 4-20; the implication is that they were not H&K. (2+2=4)
DPO Depew(7999)
"Depew stated he felt there were additional suspects hiding out in the outer perimeter communicating with the shooters on the hand-held radios."
Betty Shoels(DP 6-24-00)
"...Duran was involved in a conspiracy.... Everyone in the world knows that conspirators were involved in the case. .... She claimed that law enforcement had not fully investigated the massacre....."
Richard Olejniczak, father of students Alicia and Sarah(5070)
"Richard then asked this Investigator what information had been obtained reference any other participants. Richard stated that while he was at Lea Wood Elementary School, waiting for information about his two daughters, he talked with two girls who came from the school.
The girls said they had seen two guys in the cafeteria, wearing all black. There were also two guys who entered the main door from the parking lot. One was in black, the other in white. The girls said they all had guns.
Anthony Sammauro, via Cindy Sammauro and Janice Olejniczak(5071)
"Tony stated that two suspects came in the front door and one came in the side door."
Natalie Graves (672 of ACSO notes)
"Natalie also related she spoke with a a student named (Redacted). (Redacted) looked out the windows to the grassy hill and saw a person in a dark coat with a machine gun. This person was not one of the two doing the shooting."
Sean Graves
"...saw guy with coat and gun standing by (Redacted)--saw his face and he wasn't one of the suspects." (ACSO 633)
Julie Thomas, passerby eyewitness
That on 042099 at about 0755 hours, Julie turned onto Polk St. from Pierce St. and saw a small brownish/golden truck parked on the south side of Polk St. five male teens around it. At least three of them are wearing black trench coats. (ACSO 808 )
Lindsay Elmore
(332)"I believe there were 3 gunmen."
(334) "Lindsay stated because of the amount of shots fired 'I thought there had to be more than 2 shooters.' "
(340) ...there was so much movement that Elmore thought there was more than two people.
Jason Baer
(1759) Hid in greenroom off science hall "I heard more than two people yelling to each other saying "over here" and stuff."
Map on page 924 reads "Explosive devices found in three cars."
Erik Sunde (4576,16309, 22972) saw two gunmen downstairs near cafeteria, runs upstairs and sees another person in trenchcoat in front of library doors.
TV interview of student David Smith, sophomore, led out of the science rooms by SWAT, says four gunmen roaming the halls(from Zabel's videos)"there was four of them just roaming around the school" No word of this is in his 11k interview(2180)
Adam Foss, in a CNN interview(from Zabel's videos) says there were three guys shooting("I think three guys and a bunch of 12 guages") in the library/choir hallway. No word of this is in his 11k interview(4927)(also says he saw a couple of teachers laying in pools of blood(if Sanders was one, who was the other?)
file:///Volumes/Columbine/Columbine%20Docs2/National%20Lawenforcement%20News/col-shot.htmEmergencyNet News *FLASH* Report 04/20/99Littleton, Colorado (EmergencyNet News) 13:20pm
-- Preliminary and so far officially unconfirmed reports are coming in of a shooting involving at least eight students at the Columbine High School in Littleton.
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SIMALTANEOUS
What did the ear witnesses hear? Numerous students heard gunshots/explosions in different parts of the school simaltaneously. IOs generally ignored the implications of this: that two or more parties were attacking the school. Which of course probably meant more than two shooters, as H&K were officially together almost the entire time.
To wit
Sara Houy(380)
Heard bombs in cafeteria below, while shooters were inside library, exploding bombs.
Josh Lapp(480)
Heard gunfire in other parts of the school while attack on library is going on.
Holly Pinkham(1620)
Says friend Don Goin had his shoe shot off while in middle hall, while gunshots were going off in cafeteria.
Alex Babiner(1954)
"He thought the explosions were coming from the level he was on and from downstairs at the same time."
Doug Johnson(1947)
Heard gunfire and explosions coming from library and commons areas.
Drew Lagerborg(1999)
Ran west down south hallway, there was a gunman at end of that hallway. Ran to north hallway, he heard a shooter down that hallway as well.
Josh Brinkley(2528 )
Heard shots downstairs, then different shots upstairs(from two guns).
Jay Gallantine(3086)
Sees gunman by library then runs downstairs where he hears more gunshots "all this time hearing shots all around me and above me."
Matt Katzenmeier(3424)
Heard shots and explosions inside the school at the same time there are 2 suspects outside.
Dan Lab(3495)
Hears shots and explosions from library and cafeteria.
Jesse Maddox(3610)
Upon the entry of a gunman into the northwest entrance, he runs upstairs to the first landing, hears gunshots upstairs, then ran back down.
Danae Pederson(4043)
Hears simaltaneous shots in north and south hallways.
Brandi Wiseman(4751)
Caught in one of the rooms off the kitchen, hears gunshots, bombs and screaming coming from cafeteria and library.
Lindsay Wyant(4799)
Heard shots in cafeteria and library at same time.
Ashley Egeland(5255)
Fleeing from 2 gunmen in the upper main hallway, she hears shots coming from the commons.
Ashley Burner(6022)
Someone told her they were watching 2 dead suspects and could hear gunfire upstairs at the same time.
Evan Todd(8826)
Heard bombs in other parts of the building while H&K were in library.
Diwata Perez and Jessica Holliday(9923)
Heard gunshots elsewhere while shooters were in library.
Time(12-20-99)
"Students and teachers trapped in various parts of the school were flooding 911 dispatchers with calls reporting the shooters were, simaltaneously, inside the cafeteria, the library, and the front office."
Lindsay Elmore(337)
Library witness "You could not only hear the disaster below(in the cafeteria), but feel it too. There were multiple explosions and gunfire and people screaming. ...then the gunmen were in the library."
[Comment: the official versions says H&K shot up the library BEFORE shooting up the cafeteria.]
Jessica Holiday(367)
"Holliday said that while of this was going on, she could hear bombs going off somewhere else in the building. I questioned her again on this point and she was adamant that she could ear explosions going off while the two men were in the library."
Stephen Salmon (546)
"Stephanie Salmon went on to state after taking up a position under table #20, she remembered hearing 'gunfire from below us.' Stephanie Salmon state she believed the 'gunfire' she was hearing was coming from the 'commons' area.
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